The ruling ideology of modernity is materialist consumerism, and so deep is this, that pre-modern thought of alternatives to affluent hedonism, do not seriously get considered. Yet, apart from the philosophy and theology, there is the real politics issue of what happens if a nuclear war begins, and goes through to the end. There are numerous sources, both Western and Russian, seeing the world as sliding into nuclear war, but little thought, especially from conservatives, about what happens then, and if the consumer society continues, of is it Mad Max? Here is one exception from a leading US conservative thinker from the Reagan era, Paul Craig Roberts; my one point od disagreement is noted at the end.