You Ain't Nothin' Nothing but a Hound …No, Raccoon Dog! By Brian Simpson

The latest counter for all the evidence mounting up for the Wuhan lab release hypothesis for the Covid-19 virus is that cute little raccoon dogs, that were at the Wuhan wet market, were responsible for spreading the dreaded economy/freedom destroying Covid-19. An article in The Atlantic magazine argued this. The argument is that Covid-infected people were in the area where the raccoon dogs were sold. Fine, but that is mere association, and certainly does not prove causality. The people could, and most likely were infected prior to coming the Wuhan wet market, then the virus spread from there.

This is obviously an attempt to try and keep the sinking ship of the natural causation of Covid afloat, but a poor one.

 

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/please-stop-with-the-raccoon-dogs/comments

 

 
 

“Last night, The Atlantic - of course it was The Atlantic - had BREAKING NEWS!

And by BREAKING NEWS I mean yet another migraine-inducing story purporting to show that Sars-Cov-2 emerged naturally, rather than leaking from a lab.

Before we get to the story, which takes about two seconds to debunk, it’s worth nothing that even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci is in the process of giving up on the natural origins theory. On CNN on Sunday, he claimed that even if Sars-COV-2 escaped from a lab after scientists found it in a cave and transported it for research, he would consider that a naturally occurring outbreak.

What?

I say again, what?

Assume this version of events is true. It’s not. Chinese scientists were definitely performing “gain-of-function” research on coronaviruses in Wuhan, and the odds are overwhelming that it was one of those viruses that leaked. We know this for several reasons, including that Sars-Cov-2 has certain features that largely do not exist in wild bat coronaviruses but are common in engineered coronaviruses.

Further, Fauci’s theory makes no sense because if the Chinese had found Sars-COV-2 in a wild bat and transported it, they would have had every reason to go back to the cave where they’d found it the first time and get it again, thus PROVING it was naturally occurring. They’d know exactly where to get it! They wouldn’t have to look. They could have done so immediately (or after a couple of months had passed and they’d destroyed all the evidence that they’d ever found it before).

But let’s pretend Fauci’s theory makes sense. Let’s say that researchers found Sars-COV-2 in a wild bat, and brought it to a lab, where it leaked.

How can he, or anyone, call that a “natural occurrence”? The virus was stuck in a cave in a bat, like innumerable other coronaviruses since time immemorial. Where is the evidence it ever would have infected a human, much less caused a worldwide epidemic, had virologists not given it every possible opportunity to do so, by bringing it to the middle of a 10-million-person city and then trying to grow it?

If SARS-Cov-2 leaked from a lab, that’s a lab leak. Even Tony Fauci can’t spin that reality away.

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But back to the Atlantic. Which breathlessly reported yesterday that we now have genetic evidence that raccoon dogs and the coronavirus were both at the “Huanan Seafood Market” - the live animal market in the middle of Wuhan where some early coronavirus cases were reported - in December 2019.

“The Strongest Evidence Yet That an Animal Started the Pandemic,” the Atlantic proclaimed.

Except.

Hold up.

WE ALREADY KNEW THAT RACCOON DOGS WERE KEPT AT THE HUANAN SEAFOOD MARKET. We’ve known that for years. And of course we already knew that infected people came to the market; that’s why the people who don’t want to admit that Sars-Cov-2 leaked from a lab keeps proposing it as a source.

In fact, we went through this very nonsense MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

As The Scientist (who better to tell you about The Science?) wrote about an earlier round of nonsense in February 2022, “one of the studies shows that raccoon dogs were sold in a section of the market where coronavirus samples were detected.”

Which is more or less precisely what yesterday’s “scoop” said.

I’ll leave you with this from The New York Times.

The Times has not exactly been aggressive about covering the potential lab leak, and it followed up on the Atlantic’s piece today with one of its own. But even the Times couldn’t avoid telling the truth, four paragraphs in:

The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog.

Someone infected with a virus?

Gee, I wonder where they got it? Maybe the giant lab working with bat coronaviruses a couple miles away.”

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/new-fake-evidence-allegedly-proving

 

“The Atlantic has published an extremely dumb article by Katherine J. Wu purporting to provide The Strongest Evidence Yet That an Animal Started the Pandemic. It is everything weary veterans of the ongoing Zoonosis Bullshit Propagation Campaign have learned to loathe – meaningless findings from mendacious misinformation artists like Kristian Andersen and Angela Rasmussen, purporting to show SARS-CoV-2 entered humans via a spillover event at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, generating unwarranted overconfident wrong headlines in major American media.

 


A new analysis of genetic sequences collected from the market shows that raccoon dogs being illegally sold at the venue could have been carrying and possibly shedding the virus at the end of 2019. It’s some of the strongest support yet, experts told me, that the pandemic began when SARS-CoV-2 hopped from animals into humans, rather than in an accident among scientists experimenting with viruses.

“This really strengthens the case for a natural origin,” says Seema Lakdawala, a virologist at Emory University who wasn’t involved in the research. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist involved in the research, told me, “This is a really strong indication that animals at the market were infected. There’s really no other explanation that makes any sense.”

It gets worse:

The genetic sequences were pulled out of swabs taken in and near market stalls around the pandemic’s start. They represent the first bits of raw data that researchers outside of China’s academic institutions and their direct collaborators have had access to. Late last week, the data were quietly posted by researchers affiliated with the country’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention, on an open-access genomic database called GISAID. By almost pure happenstance, scientists in Europe, North America, and Australia spotted the sequences, downloaded them, and began an analysis.

So, we are supposed to believe that Chinese public health authorities “quietly” uploaded data laced with evidence allegedly favouring the seafood market origins hypothesis, and within days “by almost pure happenstance” creepy virologoids like Andersen and Rasmussen spotted this Easter egg and “began an analysis” leading to a paper and headlines in the Atlantic. This sounds like a completely legitimate path of inquiry to me. It does not sound at all like specific theses favoured by Chinese authorities being laundered through Western scientists and landing overnight in our major press outlets.

Within about half a day of downloading the data from GISAID [Kristian Andersen, Edward Holmes, and Michael Worobey] and their collaborators discovered that several market samples that tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 were also coming back chock-full of animal genetic material—much of which was a match for the common raccoon dog, a small animal related to foxes that has a raccoon-like face. Because of how the samples were gathered, and because viruses can’t persist by themselves in the environment, the scientists think that their findings could indicate the presence of a coronavirus-infected raccoon dog in the spots where the swabs were taken. Unlike many of the other points of discussion that have been volleyed about in the origins debate, the genetic data are “tangible,” Alex Crits-Christoph, a computational biologist and one of the scientists who worked on the new analysis, told me. “And this is the species that everyone has been talking about.”

While zoonotic theories of SARS-CoV-2 origins are not very likely, they’re not, strictly speaking, impossible. What is impossible, though, is this stupid subgenre of the zoonosis theory which insists that the spillover event happened in December 2019 at this market. We now have solid evidence that Corona was circulating around the world as early as September 2019 – months before this December outbreak happened at all. Raccoon dogs sold at the market might well have been carrying Covid, which they would’ve picked up from their human handlers. Who cares?

On Tuesday, the researchers presented their findings at a hastily scheduled meeting of the World Health Organization’s Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens, which was also attended by several of the Chinese researchers responsible for the original analysis, according to multiple researchers who were not present but were briefed about it before and after by multiple people who were there. Shortly after the meeting, the Chinese team’s preprint went into review at a Nature Research journal—suggesting that a new version was being prepared for publication.

I see. The Chinese scientists who did the quiet uploading of data and the Western virologists who found their quietly uploaded data purely by happenstance are in fact open collaborators now.

Nobody but the already-convinced and low-information casual readers will believe this. The story is only interesting insofar as it shows that there are still people inside China invested in propping up the Seafood Market theory. As I noted in my review of Viral, this theory has received subtle and very elaborate support from actors in China since the earliest days of the pandemic. This support has included deleting key items from publicly accessible databases to confuse the chronology of the earliest infections, orchestrating the entire pangolin host myth, and apparently also inducing Western scientists to publish misleading papers at semi-regular intervals.

Any plausible case for natural spillover has to lean heavily on the early, unrecognised circulation of SARS-2 beyond China since September 2019 at the latest. Officially sanctioned theories can’t take this step, because it would amount to admitting that the virus was everywhere for many months, without any hospitals melting down or any noticeable mortality spikes at all. And so we’ll just have to hear about the late and meaningless Huanan Seafood Market outbreak over and over again, probably until the present generation of virological frauds and failures retires.”


Tareq I. Albaho, PhD

 

The recent congressional evidence of Robert Redcliff, former CDC head, is very damning and I wonder (because I am a "conspiracy theorist") if this latest resurgence of the market theory is in response to Redcliff's evidence?

Not only did Redcliff clearly affirm his view and presented the evidence that the virus was engineered (including insertion of the components for the cleavage site) but he noted 3 things that happened at the Wuhan lab in September 2019:

  1. They deleted their records
  2. They called in military management
  3. They changed the air-purification system

As he said, any of these 3 would raise suspicions, having all 3 happen at the same time ...?

The head of the Chinese version of the CDC, Gao Fu, was a participant at the October 2019 "event 201" simulation that was so eerily similar to what started happening a few months later. He would have already known about what happened a month earlier at Wuhan.

And that nice photo of the raccoon is so cute and nothing like Peter Daszak.”

 

 

 

 

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