Climate Change and the Problem of the Uncooperative Ice By James Reed

According to the mainstream climate change alarmist position, carbon dioxide increases since the industrial age, are causing untold dangerous events, such as the melting of the poles, especially Antarctica, which is mostly ice on a land mass, rather than free-floating ice, so that if the land-based ice melts, catastrophic sea level rises will occur. Or, so the story now drummed into every school child goes.

However, there is a major problem here. A paper just published in Science Advances, “Early Sea Ice Decline Off East Antarctica at the Last Glacial–Interglacial Climate Transition,” has shown that ice core and other geophysical data indicates that in the past a rise in carbon dioxide levels occurred a substantial time after, not before warming periods. Worse, for the mainstream climate change position, a vast amount of melting occurred in Antarctica from 21,000 to 19,500 years ago, which around 2,000 years before the local Antarctica climate started warming by up to 8°C. This in turn led to a rise of CO₂ of 80 parts per million (ppm). In other words, increases in carbon dioxide are effects, not causes of climate change.

The argument here is about ice melts and carbon dioxide levels in the past, but if the close connection between melting and carbon dioxide levels is broken, then even if there was a present day rise in global mean temperatures, this could well be natural variation, rather than some human cause via industrialism. If this is so, which seems highly likely, the climate change position, let alone alarmism, is critically broke. With it will go dangerous nonsense like zero net that threats to de-industrialise the West and destroy our standard of living.

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/11/21/antarctica-ice-retreated-thousands-of-years-before-co2-rise-say-scientists/

“Politicised science led by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) holds that the only change in climate for the last 100 years has been caused by humans releasing carbon dioxide by burning fossil fuel. The proposition is nonsense of course but it is designed to enforce a collectivist Net Zero project. It is easily debunked by the mass of scientific knowledge suggesting natural causes play the dominant climate role. Now comes further news that rises in atmospheric CO₂ occur after temperatures rise. A new paper from an international group of scientists has discovered that half of the current retreat in Antarctica sea ice occurred many thousands of years before CO₂ levels started to rise.

According to ice core samples, considerable melting seems to have occurred in Antarctica from 21,000 to 19,500 years ago. This appears to be about 2,000 years before the local Antarctica climate started warming by up to 8°C, which led to a naturally occurring rise of CO₂ of 80 parts per million (ppm). At the time, the Earth was in a period of severe and potentially dangerous CO₂ denudation. Much below 150 ppm and plants start to die away. Modern levels at around 400 ppm are more beneficial, although recent research has indicated that plants are genetically disposed to thrive best at levels around 1,000 ppm. This harks back to many periods in the past when CO₂ levels were much higher than they are today.

The early warming is attributed to an increase in energy from the Sun over the wider Antarctica area. The paper notes that the break-up of the ice, and the invigoration of currents in the southern ocean, may have led to substantial outgassing of deeply sequestered oceanic CO₂. There is of course no reason why similar processes are not at work today, with a small 1°C increase in temperature since the start of the industrial revolution leading to oceanic outgassing. Many scientific papers have shown that temperatures rise ahead of CO₂ levels in the historic and prehistoric record.

Commenting on the paper, the science web site No Tricks Zone said that the Antarctica time-lag not only suggested that CO₂ was not a contributing factor in local sea ice retreat, but that the sea ice retreat may have been the factor sequentially instigating Antarctica warming and CO₂ rise.

Modern climate apocalypse reporting requires every melting ice cube at the Poles to be portrayed as a sign of imminent Armageddon. Ahead of the forthcoming COP28, the BBC is in full campaigning mode, noting that Arctic sea ice has long been in decline and Antarctica sea ice has been “far lower than usual” in 2023. In fact, the natural cyclical decline of Arctic sea ice seems to have more or less stopped since 2012, and there has been a small recovery. In Antarctica, the ‘far lower’ observation only holds if you ignore similar levels identified by early weather satellites in 1966. Previous highs in sea ice around Antarctica, a continent that has seen little overall warming for at least 70 years, are said by the BBC to have “largely defied predictions and remained relatively stable”.

The BBC concludes that the “devastating climate impacts currently being experienced” highlight the challenges the world is already facing. These “devastating impacts” are of course little more than a dot-joining exercise with a number of recent climate anomalies. Needless to say, most of these involve heat, so there is little room for all the cold records that have occurred in 2023. In the interests of balance, it might be briefly noted that Argentina has just recorded its lowest November temperatures since records began, including 0.2°C at Cordoba Airport. Huge amounts of snow in parts of Europe have led to early starts in the skiing season in the French Alps. Further details of these records, and many others, ignored by mainstream media, can be seen here.

None of this is of much relevance in trying to understanding the changing, chaotic climate, whatever the role ascribed to human-caused CO₂. It is just playing politics. A recent paper from two American glaciologists found that over half of the Arctic’s glaciers and ice caps (GIC) that exist today did not exist or were smaller 10,000 to 3,400 years ago. The period between 7,900 to 4,500 years ago was noted to be the peak of the interglacial Arctic warming, when temperatures were many degrees warmer than today.

The Arctic’s current ice extent is “among the largest of the last 10,000 years”, the glaciologists reported. The largest glacier and ice cap extent of the current Holocene epoch has been seen in the last millennium. This is said to suggest that any reduction in glaciers and ice caps in the last few centuries “is but a partial return to a former period of much greater warmth”.