Both former prime ministers, John Howard and Tony Abbott, have said that the Northern Territory is a failed state. That is about as bad as it gets, putting the Northern Territory in the African camp. Remote communities are not getting even basic services, such as adequate education for indigenous children, and both doubt whether the Voice could in principle solve these problems. Both liberals rightly have stated the Voice changes to the constitution would put racial separatism into the constitution, which would be highly divisive. Further, whatever proposals are canvassed for helping remote communities, nothing will be seen for some years, while urgent action is needed now. And, that is the problem with having a centralised body such as the Voice. The Yes side, has to some degree recognised this, but instead as seeing their proposal as fundamentally flawed, have doubled down, wanting masses of regional Voices. It will only multiple problems, increase expenses, and go nowhere except, make a group of elites, even more well paid.